Windows 7 BSOD ntoskrnl.exe and ntkrnlmp.exe

Caranor

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Hi I have been having BSOD's at random times, my pc keeps crashing I have formatted three times still same problem....
I found out how to use minidump and such but dont know what these things mean I will put my minidump in here as detachment though.
Please help me :(.
 

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Ideally a defrag wouldn't be related to an I/O Error - but stranger things have happened.

My primary concern is that there might be a hardware problem - and the only test for that is a hard drive diagnostic

Defragging used to be a good thing to do (back in the XP days) - but the Windows defragger has become quite capable and I haven't noticed it's use being needed very often.

Another thing to run is CHKDSK /R /F from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt
This will test the file system (NTFS, FAT32, FAT, etc) to see if there's any problem with it.
If you run it on your C: drive, you'll have to select "Y" in order to tell it to run on a reboot.
And, FYI, it's not required to run with both the /R and /F parameters - but it...
Please follow these instructions on Link Removed

Analysis:
Code:
BSOD Dump File Analyzer - MSZ


Debug session time: Sun Oct 21 06:49:15.071 2012 (UTC + 11:00)
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\MZ\SysnativeBSODApps\102012-31449-01.dmp]
Built by: 7601.17835.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030
System Uptime: 0 days 0:42:34.024
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8006d8cb30, fffffa8006d8ce10, fffff8000318a510}
Probably caused by : csrss.exe
Bugcheck code 000000f4

PROCESS_NAME:  csrss.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4_IOERR
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_csrss.exe
MaxSpeed:     2200
CurrentSpeed: 2195
BiosVersion = A14
BiosReleaseDate = 11/11/2011
SystemManufacturer = Dell Inc.         
SystemProductName = Dell System XPS L702X
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``



BSOD Dump File Analyzer - MSZ


Built by: 7601.17835.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030
Debug session time: Sun Oct 21 06:49:15.071 2012 (UTC + 11:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:42:34.024
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8006d8cb30, fffffa8006d8ce10, fffff8000318a510}
Probably caused by : csrss.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4_IOERR
PROCESS_NAME:  csrss.exe
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BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8006d8cb30, fffffa8006d8ce10, fffff8000318a510}


Probably caused by : csrss.exe


Followup: MachineOwner
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STACK_COMMAND:  kb


FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner


FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_csrss.exe


BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_csrss.exe


Followup: MachineOwner
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Looking at the .dmp file however, it seems the problem is caused by csrss.exe, which is the Microsoft Client Server Runtime Server - it controls the graphical instructions being sent through your computer.

csrss.exe is found in C:\Windows\System32\csrss.exe
Note: Some viruses disguise themselves as csrss.exe.

CTRL+ALT+DEL and select "Start Task Manager".
Select the processes tab and locate "csrss.exe".
Normally it should be taking about ~3000K of memory, any more and it probably is a trojan.
If you find it hogs more than ~3000K, run an antivirus "full system scan" (all reputable antivirus softwares should have this option). If the antivirus finds a problem, follow the steps to repair it.

3rd Party Drivers:
All red drivers should be removed or updated.
Code:
[B]intelppm.sys                Tue Jul 14 09:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD)[/B][B]amdxata.sys                 Sat Mar 20 03:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)[/B]
[B]qicflt.sys                  Fri Jul  2 11:46:34 2010 (4C2D44FA)[/B]
[B]SynTP.sys                   Fri Sep 24 09:49:07 2010 (4C9BE773)[/B]
[B]HECIx64.sys                 Wed Oct 20 10:33:43 2010 (4CBE2AD7)[/B]
[B]Rt64win7.sys                Tue Nov 30 17:01:28 2010 (4CF49338)[/B]
nvstusb.sys                 Wed Oct  3 04:11:53 2012 (506B2E69)
nvlddmkm.sys                Wed Oct  3 04:21:13 2012 (506B3099)

intelppm.sys Tue Jul 14 09:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD)
Intel Processor driver
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amdxata.sys Sat Mar 20 03:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)
AMD storage controller driver - usually from the Windows 7 DVD
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qicflt.sys Fri Jul 2 11:46:34 2010 (4C2D44FA)
QicFilterDriver-64Bits from Quanta Computer/Dell Webcam Driver
Link Removed

SynTP.sys Fri Sep 24 09:49:07 2010 (4C9BE773)
Synaptic Touch Pad Driver
Link Removed

HECIx64.sys Wed Oct 20 10:33:43 2010 (4CBE2AD7)
Intel Management Engine Interface
Link Removed

Rt64win7.sys Tue Nov 30 17:01:28 2010 (4CF49338)
Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Link Removed

nvstusb.sys Wed Oct 3 04:11:53 2012 (506B2E69)
NVIDIA Stereoscopic 3D USB driver
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nvlddmkm.sys Wed Oct 3 04:21:13 2012 (506B3099)
nVidia Video drivers
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Just to add to GeneralHiningII's advice....

Please note this line in the analysis that they provided:
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_csrss.exe
An IOERR (I/O Error) is frequently due to an issue with a hard drive or one of the components involved in managing the operation of the hard drive.

Please run this free hard drive diagnostic procedure: http:Link Removed - Invalid URLLink Removed
Just to be safe, please run a free scan from here: Link Removed - Invalid URL
You can also run a free scan on just the csrss.exe file at Jotti's malware scan

IMO it's not very common to have BSOD issues due to files that are protected by the System File Checker in Windows (usually this is a sign for us to look elsewhere for the problem). But in this case, it's also not very common to see csrss.exe as the blame. So it's advisable to perform a full system scan "just in case"Link Removed
 

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Just to add to GeneralHiningII's advice....

Please note this line in the analysis that they provided:

An IOERR (I/O Error) is frequently due to an issue with a hard drive or one of the components involved in managing the operation of the hard drive.

Please run this free hard drive diagnostic procedure: Link Removed - Invalid URL

Would Defragging the hard disk help in anyway?
 

Ideally a defrag wouldn't be related to an I/O Error - but stranger things have happened.

My primary concern is that there might be a hardware problem - and the only test for that is a hard drive diagnostic

Defragging used to be a good thing to do (back in the XP days) - but the Windows defragger has become quite capable and I haven't noticed it's use being needed very often.

Another thing to run is CHKDSK /R /F from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt
This will test the file system (NTFS, FAT32, FAT, etc) to see if there's any problem with it.
If you run it on your C: drive, you'll have to select "Y" in order to tell it to run on a reboot.
And, FYI, it's not required to run with both the /R and /F parameters - but it doesn't hurt and I've been running it that way for years.
 

Solution
Or you could just right-click your windows-based drive, select properties > tools, Check Now.

Possibly update the drivers for his Hard Disk?
 

Hey much thanks for the help so far How can I download the drivers from Link Removed - Invalid URL or is it just telling what driver it is.
And when I go to task manager and rightclick on csrss.exe open file location, nothing shows up.
 

carrona.org just tells you the driver's uses, if it's update is from a 3rd party site there would be a link to that site, otherwise carrona.org will tell you it's from Windows Update.

You don't need to rightclick the csrss.exe process, just check if it's using more than ~3,000K under the "Memory" Column.
 

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No drivers for the hard disk - BUT - there are drivers for the hard disk controller that controls the hard disk

Late for work, gotta run!
 

Its using 10.588k
 

That's way over the limit.
Run a full virus scan with your AV software, and (optionally) download Malwarebytes : Free anti-malware download and run it, just to make double sure.
 

Scan it at Jotti's malware scan
Most likely it's not infected, but there's no sense in taking chances!
 

Remember. The file can be found in C:\Windows\System32\csrss.exe
(for scanning with Jotti)
 

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